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		<title>Comment on Cloud Computing, a &#8220;pig with a different snout&#8221;? by Keith Bierman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Bierman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 05:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;how will this affect the end users...&quot;

Back in the 1980&#039;s, some of my customers did nearly all their processing on various timesharing networks (e.g. BCS with their hundreds of CDC and Cray systems). 

Whether one submitted a job to a &quot;local&quot; mainframe, or a remote one, or a &quot;cluster&quot; of them (my job typically ran on a dozen or so different systems during it&#039;s brief runtime) it was largely invisible.

Obviously, people aren&#039;t enthused about returning to virtual punch cards, but the concept is largely the same. Once the job has been configured, anything that is going to run for hours ... as long as it runs reliably and repeatably ... it doesn&#039;t really matter if it&#039;s on the desktop, in the lab, or across town.

So I don&#039;t see how it effects the end user. The end developer may well have a different set of APIs to code to; but those can run locally as well as &#039;in the cloud&#039; so that&#039;s only a change to old timers like myself ;&gt;]]></description>
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<p>Back in the 1980&#8242;s, some of my customers did nearly all their processing on various timesharing networks (e.g. BCS with their hundreds of CDC and Cray systems). </p>
<p>Whether one submitted a job to a &#8220;local&#8221; mainframe, or a remote one, or a &#8220;cluster&#8221; of them (my job typically ran on a dozen or so different systems during it&#8217;s brief runtime) it was largely invisible.</p>
<p>Obviously, people aren&#8217;t enthused about returning to virtual punch cards, but the concept is largely the same. Once the job has been configured, anything that is going to run for hours &#8230; as long as it runs reliably and repeatably &#8230; it doesn&#8217;t really matter if it&#8217;s on the desktop, in the lab, or across town.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t see how it effects the end user. The end developer may well have a different set of APIs to code to; but those can run locally as well as &#8216;in the cloud&#8217; so that&#8217;s only a change to old timers like myself ;&gt;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reading between the lines&#8230; by Marco</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Demand is already using Sun servers as their standard deployment for new equipment. Sun storage is just around the corner (something from that 7000 series with flash).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Demand is already using Sun servers as their standard deployment for new equipment. Sun storage is just around the corner (something from that 7000 series with flash).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Computing, a &#8220;pig with a different snout&#8221;? by Tommie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How will this affect the end users. think about it is ordinary people who will hadle the sytems in the end  of the day. Our have I missed some thing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How will this affect the end users. think about it is ordinary people who will hadle the sytems in the end  of the day. Our have I missed some thing</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cloud Computing, a &#8220;pig with a different snout&#8221;? by Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I finally may have figured out my definition of &quot;Cluster&quot;, &quot;Grid&quot;, and &quot;Cloud&quot;.  Far too much &quot;Cloud&quot; information reads like the old &quot;Grid&quot; information after a global search and replace.

Cluster = Group of computers running a homogeneous service or application.

Grid = Group of computers running heterogeneous services or applications, sometimes in a utility or chargeback model.

Cloud = A federated collection of heterogeneous Grids, or a Grid designed from the start with the ability to operate in a federated manner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I finally may have figured out my definition of &#8220;Cluster&#8221;, &#8220;Grid&#8221;, and &#8220;Cloud&#8221;.  Far too much &#8220;Cloud&#8221; information reads like the old &#8220;Grid&#8221; information after a global search and replace.</p>
<p>Cluster = Group of computers running a homogeneous service or application.</p>
<p>Grid = Group of computers running heterogeneous services or applications, sometimes in a utility or chargeback model.</p>
<p>Cloud = A federated collection of heterogeneous Grids, or a Grid designed from the start with the ability to operate in a federated manner.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s in a name? by Mr WordPress</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr WordPress]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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